LOST: it wasn’t all the dog’s dream, but that’s close enough.

I’m glad I foresaw this disaster and gave up on Lost halfway through season 3. Now that I know what the end is, I can see my decision was wise and saved me major frustration.

However, this ending still upsets me majorly. I’ll tell you why: it’s not nice to con an audience as faithful as Lost’s. It’s cheap and dishonest to promise answers and then deliver vague ambiguity!

You can say all you want about the show’s heart being the characters but you and I and everyone with a brain knows that Lost became huge because of the mystery and the questions about the island, not the characters. Yes, after six seasons people get attached to the heroes and want to know what happens to them. Still, the one reason anyone got hooked on the show in the first place was the freaking Island.

Do you think people watched the pilot and went, Oh what an interesting character, this Jack. I wonder what his journey will be. No! People went ballistic over the smoke monster, the hatch, polar bears, Dharma Initiative, the numbers, and what in the world is that damn Island?! And to that it seems the only answer given was: it doesn’t matter.You’ve been punk’d!

What crap, seriously. I bet most fans feel like such fools right now.

13 responses to “LOST: it wasn’t all the dog’s dream, but that’s close enough.

  1. Next time, be sure you dont misunderstand the spoilers you read. That’s not what happened at all.
    Quoting the show itself, “what happened, happened.”

  2. “What happened, happened” is a shit answer. What is the Island then? What is the point of Dharma? How are the numbers relevant? “What happened, happened” doesn’t answer any of those, and there are more.

  3. “what happened happened” wasnt an answer, it was just me saying it was NOT all a dream. want to know the rest? watch the show. dont stick to reading spoilers written by people that need to have every little thing spelled out.

  4. i mean, seriously, you know i love you, but criticizing the resolution of a show you gave up on early on is at least as tacky as complaining about the government when you didnt even vote.
    also tacky is spoiling people just because you hate what you hear about an ending. fortunately, it turns out that you didnt actually spoil anyone, so there’s a happy end there.

  5. I didn’t say it was all a dream, I said the resolution was just as bad, just as unsatisfactory and just as much of a cop-out as the old dream cliché. The Simpsons cartoon is a joke, in case that wasn’t clear.

    I don’t need to have followed Lost’s last three seasons to know whether or not the ending was good/ satisfactory. The show’s entire premise was a group of survivors stranded on a mysterious island. When at least three seasons are devoted to The Mysteries of the Island then I damn sure will expect that those questions will be answered by the end of the series — especially if those answers have been promised by the producers, and if the marketing around the last two seasons revolved around it (answers).

    The crux of the hype around Lost is based on this: mystery, speculation, theories. Not the character drama, love triangles, whatever. Most of the discussions — and indeed the whole reason the show became a phenomenon — were about Dharma, the numbers, the meaning of it all, the philosophy and symbolism of the Island, and how it all ties together. Was this resolved in the finale? You watched the show, you tell me.

  6. No.
    It was resolved before.
    Granted, there’s a couple of details that were inferred rather than explicitly stated, but yes, all of that was addressed before the finale. Some of it WAY before.

  7. What is Dharma Initiative? What’s the point of it all? And what is the Island?

  8. “were about Dharma, the numbers, the meaning of it all, the philosophy and symbolism of the Island, and how it all ties together. Was this resolved in the finale? You watched the show, you tell me.”

    It’s kinda ironic, that all you pointed out there, were all things that had been answered already, before the finale.

    You’ll need half a brain for the philosophy and symbolism of the Island, though.

    But it’s not that hard, and it’s something that’s, of course, subjective to individual interpretation.

    And Luís is right. It’s quite tacky to go off on something you gave up long ago, just to say “I was right”, even though you aren’t.

    I know it’s intrinsic to human nature to pass judgement on things we really don’t know about, but since you’re actually arguing for “logic”, “reason”, “answers” in a tv-show (that you gave up on), you’re not showcasing any of your own, for yourself.

    It just comes off as you not having anything better to talk about.

    And just to make this clear, I am not being bias in anyway…because I am not the biggest fan of the Lost finale.


  9. “What is Dharma Initiative? What’s the point of it all? And what is the Island?”

    I reccomend that you watch the show and find out on your own.

  10. Grifter, this is not an “i was right – hah!” post. The only reason I was still interested in Lost’s finale was because as a screenwriter I wanted to see how these writers would pull it off. I think it’s clear that all the make-up-as-you-go-along in earlier seasons didn’t work out so well in the long run.

    Things that were made out to be A Really Big Deal (such as the statues for instance) then turned out to be mere plot devices and mystery for the sake of mystery, as they played no role at all in the big reveal, the overall theme of the series, or the furthering of Island knowledge (as in fact, not speculation).

    One of the Huge Questions in Lost is the nature of the Island itself. Since the pilot up until the episode I last watched (somewhere in season 3) this question was consistently returned to and underlined. It was a crucial point in fan’s speculation and theories. Was it ever resolved in the show?

    Also, my gripe with it is not just about these particular questions. These were the questions I, personally, had but I know there were many others raised over the other seasons — and it seems those weren’t answered either. It’s okay to leave some things still shrouded in mystery, but the way I see it, they dismissed the entire thing, basically saying that it doesn’t matter because Lost is not about the Island or its surrounding mysteries it’s about Jack’s journey and the afterlife. Sorry but that’s bollocks. If those mysteries were irrelevant, they wouldn’t have taken up so much screen time.

  11. Haha, but the show was always, from day one, about human nature. Not just Jack, but all of them.

    From day one, the mysteries, sci-fi elements, were used as mere plot devices to showcase the capacity of human nature, to overcome, adapt, grow…the inevitability of death and what we do in life…how it all matters, how there’s no do-overs, free will, choice..I could go on and even quote dozens of creeds and philosophies showcased (some even blatantly, with several books being read by the characters or cleverly placed about on the sets) in the show.

    They lured you with the mysteries, but kept you with the characters. If that’s not damn fine writing, I don’t know what is.

    And really, you’re still talking about something, you did not fully experience.

    Which is hardly the suitable thing to do when passing judgement, even more so as a professional.

    And yes, the nature of the “Island”, what it is, was answered in sufficient detail, for people with half a brain.

    Plus, the importance of the “Island” in how it helped everyone that was “Lost” to find themselves, is really…the heart of the show.


  12. “They lured you with the mysteries, but kept you with the characters. If that’s not damn fine writing, I don’t know what is.” It is fine writing, the characters are a huge part of any show.

    However, I disagree that they were “mere plot devices”. Actually, yes they *were* plot devices but written in a way that made us think they weren’t at first only to be blatantly discarded, creating frustration, if that makes sense. By saying that they had a plan for the show and that they knew where they were going, they were implying that nothing was random and so that all those devices were in fact NOT devices but served an actual purpose in the story. As it turns out, they didn’t. And this is not fine writing.

    I understand that some people will be happy with a character-based ending. I also get that people will make their own theories and find their own answers. What I can’t accept is for a show to rely so heavily on mystery and to promise answers (look back on the marketing for the last two seasons) to those very same mysteries and then discard them all as irrelevant devices.

    There is no need to spell it all out, audiences aren’t dumb. But to leave it up in the air so ambiguously and vaguely is too easy a solution. IMO.

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